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		<title>Comment on Forgetting Who We Are = Bitterness, Violence, War by Sue</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/forgetting-who-we-are-bitterness-violence-war/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow</description>
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		<title>Comment on We Like Lists Because We Don&#8217;t Want To Die by Renee</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/we-like-lists-because-we-dont-want-to-die/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We like lists because we don’t want to die. …LOVE this!! Lol. Oddly enough, my lists have not had the same soothing effect they used to!  

There were many years when my life would be reeling out of control in many areas and a list would take to make me feel more calm and in control. Just making a list; even if i acted upon NOT ONE thing on it., would leave the impression that I have reeled it all in. 

In the past year or so the list almost brought more stress...In fact a few weeks ago made a huge list. looked like shit: too many categories, random to do&#039;s that dont have a category. It was kind of a WTF moment afterward because I didn&#039;t FEEL better.  

Now I&#039;m thinking that after Dad&#039;s death, Jay&#039;s dad, C&#039;s sister and friend, and others...maybe the magic of the list making keeping death at bay has worn off.   Kind of liberating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We like lists because we don’t want to die. …LOVE this!! Lol. Oddly enough, my lists have not had the same soothing effect they used to!  </p>
<p>There were many years when my life would be reeling out of control in many areas and a list would take to make me feel more calm and in control. Just making a list; even if i acted upon NOT ONE thing on it., would leave the impression that I have reeled it all in. </p>
<p>In the past year or so the list almost brought more stress&#8230;In fact a few weeks ago made a huge list. looked like shit: too many categories, random to do&#8217;s that dont have a category. It was kind of a WTF moment afterward because I didn&#8217;t FEEL better.  </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m thinking that after Dad&#8217;s death, Jay&#8217;s dad, C&#8217;s sister and friend, and others&#8230;maybe the magic of the list making keeping death at bay has worn off.   Kind of liberating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gifts, Glamour and Longing by Stephanie Jacques</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/gifts-glamour-and-longing/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wew, I hear you about more things to maintain and more things to make decisions about! I felt this today when it took my children and I 2 hours just to get us out of the house in the morning. It&#039;s a bitter sweet feeling, though, and a balance between choosing what I want to take responsibility for and swallowing down acceptance sometimes when I know it&#039;s just a phase- because there is also joy in crevaces if I look for it and sometimes when I don&#039;t.

Of course the pressure our country is facing doesn&#039;t help and, being in real estate, I hear so many personal stories of hardship and feel my charity is to be a good listener and to use my expertise to help people simplify their stress.

Don&#039;t know how your blog sparked this direction from me but thank you for responding to my blog (Homeagentnh) and for sharing yours!

Stephanie Jacques</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wew, I hear you about more things to maintain and more things to make decisions about! I felt this today when it took my children and I 2 hours just to get us out of the house in the morning. It&#8217;s a bitter sweet feeling, though, and a balance between choosing what I want to take responsibility for and swallowing down acceptance sometimes when I know it&#8217;s just a phase- because there is also joy in crevaces if I look for it and sometimes when I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Of course the pressure our country is facing doesn&#8217;t help and, being in real estate, I hear so many personal stories of hardship and feel my charity is to be a good listener and to use my expertise to help people simplify their stress.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know how your blog sparked this direction from me but thank you for responding to my blog (Homeagentnh) and for sharing yours!</p>
<p>Stephanie Jacques</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gifts, Glamour and Longing by mmwm</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/gifts-glamour-and-longing/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>mmwm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, sometimes it does feel like having or buying or receiving a luxury item or two does make things easier to bear. (See my &lt;a href=&quot;http://delicious.com/mmwm/Xmas_Ideas_Me&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Xmas wish list&lt;/a&gt; at Delicious! ;-)) But it reminds me of addiction, because while it offers comfort, solace, distraction, and even hope for a while, more is always needed, isn&#039;t it? 

T. was looking at a piece of art for sale for $3400 in the coffee shop this weekend and said -- in the context of a convo. we were overhearing there about a woman who doesn&#039;t own a coffee machine but buys a Starbucks coffee 5x/day, every day -- that  in about half a year, if the woman stopped buying the coffee, she could own the painting, which would last her whole life. I responded that I would rather have the five cups of coffee each day, though &quot;coffee&quot; is a metaphor in my case for &quot;moments of feeling I am getting a special treat.&quot; For some people, owning that piece of art would give them that feeling as they look at it everyday; for me, I&#039;d rather use the money to splurge on smaller things over time, and maybe a variety of things, like food, wine, a nice tea, a trip to an art gallery, a pretty book, flowers, nice socks, etc. Housewares and cosmetics don&#039;t do it for me, and apparently neither does a piece of art, but other things that give me sensual pleasure, along with a feeling of novelty or happy surprise, do seem to smooth out the rough places. (Maybe they mimic the feeling of being completely and overwhelmingly loved?)

OTOH, I have so many of these luxuries already. I don&#039;t lack for yummy food, good wine, beautiful things. But they don&#039;t seem to be _enough_ except in the moment when I teeter between wanting them and having them. After I&#039;ve &#039;consumed&#039; the item, I&#039;m left with a mixture of feelings: satisfaction, wishing the moment of consumption were still in the future, wishing I&#039;d chosen something else that would have satisfied me even more, and always, eventually, a longing for more/other. Reminded as I have been most of my life of CS Lewis&#039;s wise words: &quot;Our best havings are wantings.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, sometimes it does feel like having or buying or receiving a luxury item or two does make things easier to bear. (See my <a href="http://delicious.com/mmwm/Xmas_Ideas_Me" rel="nofollow">Xmas wish list</a> at Delicious! ;-)) But it reminds me of addiction, because while it offers comfort, solace, distraction, and even hope for a while, more is always needed, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>T. was looking at a piece of art for sale for $3400 in the coffee shop this weekend and said &#8212; in the context of a convo. we were overhearing there about a woman who doesn&#8217;t own a coffee machine but buys a Starbucks coffee 5x/day, every day &#8212; that  in about half a year, if the woman stopped buying the coffee, she could own the painting, which would last her whole life. I responded that I would rather have the five cups of coffee each day, though &#8220;coffee&#8221; is a metaphor in my case for &#8220;moments of feeling I am getting a special treat.&#8221; For some people, owning that piece of art would give them that feeling as they look at it everyday; for me, I&#8217;d rather use the money to splurge on smaller things over time, and maybe a variety of things, like food, wine, a nice tea, a trip to an art gallery, a pretty book, flowers, nice socks, etc. Housewares and cosmetics don&#8217;t do it for me, and apparently neither does a piece of art, but other things that give me sensual pleasure, along with a feeling of novelty or happy surprise, do seem to smooth out the rough places. (Maybe they mimic the feeling of being completely and overwhelmingly loved?)</p>
<p>OTOH, I have so many of these luxuries already. I don&#8217;t lack for yummy food, good wine, beautiful things. But they don&#8217;t seem to be _enough_ except in the moment when I teeter between wanting them and having them. After I&#8217;ve &#8216;consumed&#8217; the item, I&#8217;m left with a mixture of feelings: satisfaction, wishing the moment of consumption were still in the future, wishing I&#8217;d chosen something else that would have satisfied me even more, and always, eventually, a longing for more/other. Reminded as I have been most of my life of CS Lewis&#8217;s wise words: &#8220;Our best havings are wantings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gifts, Glamour and Longing by Renee</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/gifts-glamour-and-longing/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was just talking to V. about this very thing.  We went to TJMaxx the other day and thre were so many things, lavish things that I long for in my daily life when Im feeling down or deprived.  Like new towels or bedding...the stuff I have is fine but walking through the soft lovely piles with the glitterning end caps calling my name...I want it ALL.  Then I walk out feeling kinda depressed, spiraling into the mental conversation about gratitude for all I do have to regain that balance again.  Somehow for me the attraction of the luxury items is related to the longings for things that one cant buy or be given (as you mentioned), money worries, pet health, family issues.  Something is deeply installed in me saying having beautiful towels or a gorgeous set of sheets, socks, lipstick, nightgown, great shoes, new dishes... will make that other stuff easier to bear.  As I write Im thinking sometimes it really does...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was just talking to V. about this very thing.  We went to TJMaxx the other day and thre were so many things, lavish things that I long for in my daily life when Im feeling down or deprived.  Like new towels or bedding&#8230;the stuff I have is fine but walking through the soft lovely piles with the glitterning end caps calling my name&#8230;I want it ALL.  Then I walk out feeling kinda depressed, spiraling into the mental conversation about gratitude for all I do have to regain that balance again.  Somehow for me the attraction of the luxury items is related to the longings for things that one cant buy or be given (as you mentioned), money worries, pet health, family issues.  Something is deeply installed in me saying having beautiful towels or a gorgeous set of sheets, socks, lipstick, nightgown, great shoes, new dishes&#8230; will make that other stuff easier to bear.  As I write Im thinking sometimes it really does&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sacrifice, Self-Sacrifice and Oppression, Self-Oppression by theogenesis</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/sacrifice-self-sacrifice-and-oppression-self-oppression/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>theogenesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the language of &quot;sacrifice&quot; very often conceals violence/violation behind religious rhetoric such that I&#039;m not convinced the word is actually very helpful - at least whilst it is viewed as in any way god-demanded.    In practise the notion of &quot;sacrifice&quot; can be like giving a blank check to god / church or their representative to demand of you whatever is expedient to them.   

With regard to self-sacrifice in face of violence to oneself - perhaps the difference between nonviolent resistance and nonresistance is relevant here.   The latter would I think  characterise inappropriate self-sacrifice whereas the former would refuse to continue the spiral of violence either through responding in kind or continuing unquestioningly to accept violation.

In the end I am concerned about the difference between religious language which reveals the social, political, inter-personal dynamics at work in a scenario and religious language that conceals these.   I think much talk of sacrifice falls into the latter category.

I&#039;m very grateful to have come across this post and comments.   I&#039;m currently reading / writing on sacrifice and am disturbed by how much unquestioned sacrificial rhetoric there is in our traditions and liturgies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the language of &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; very often conceals violence/violation behind religious rhetoric such that I&#8217;m not convinced the word is actually very helpful &#8211; at least whilst it is viewed as in any way god-demanded.    In practise the notion of &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; can be like giving a blank check to god / church or their representative to demand of you whatever is expedient to them.   </p>
<p>With regard to self-sacrifice in face of violence to oneself &#8211; perhaps the difference between nonviolent resistance and nonresistance is relevant here.   The latter would I think  characterise inappropriate self-sacrifice whereas the former would refuse to continue the spiral of violence either through responding in kind or continuing unquestioningly to accept violation.</p>
<p>In the end I am concerned about the difference between religious language which reveals the social, political, inter-personal dynamics at work in a scenario and religious language that conceals these.   I think much talk of sacrifice falls into the latter category.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very grateful to have come across this post and comments.   I&#8217;m currently reading / writing on sacrifice and am disturbed by how much unquestioned sacrificial rhetoric there is in our traditions and liturgies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on One Week by mmwm</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/one-week/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>mmwm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for visiting, Stephanie. I&#039;ll be posting more about the house again, though hopefully not about the process of moving, at least not for a long while!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for visiting, Stephanie. I&#8217;ll be posting more about the house again, though hopefully not about the process of moving, at least not for a long while!</p>
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		<title>Comment on One Week by Stephanie Jacques</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/one-week/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally got around to checking out your profile more and your site. Interesting that I&#039;m in real estate and I take most interest in your new home post. Now I know who I&#039;m reading when you tweet.
Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally got around to checking out your profile more and your site. Interesting that I&#8217;m in real estate and I take most interest in your new home post. Now I know who I&#8217;m reading when you tweet.<br />
Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How We Die by Lynn Robbins</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/how-we-die/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Fate! ;-)
 I hope my obit reads that I unexpectedly, suddenly and quietly &quot;advance(d) to (my) next great life&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Fate! ;-)<br />
 I hope my obit reads that I unexpectedly, suddenly and quietly &#8220;advance(d) to (my) next great life&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Magic Hat Bottlecaps Found While Packing by Mike McDermott</title>
		<link>http://beyondrivalry.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/magic-hat-bottlecaps-found-while-packing/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Found&quot; ... yeah - ha ha.
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Found&#8221; &#8230; yeah &#8211; ha ha.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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